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The cultural origins are far too varied to enumerate. Many people very justly bring up the issue of how our society genders toyswith parents getting very angry when girls play with stereotypically male toys and vice versa.

On the other hand, I also think people who neglect biological causes are doing the issue a disservice. Did you know that young monkeys express pretty much exactly the same gendered toy preferences as human children? Rhesus monkeysvervet monkeyspretty much whatever species of monkeys you try it on, the male monkeys enjoy wheeled toys more and the French women monkeys plush toys more.

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Slate Mississippi lonely women adds a result, high school girls are only a fifth as likely to be interested in computer science as high school boys, and sure enough women are only a fifth as well Skate in Silicon Valley as men. All of lonelt information is accessible for free to anyone who spends ten minutes doing a basic Google search. But instead we have to keep hearing how nerds are gross and disgusting and entitled and should feel constant shame for how they bully and harass the poor female programmers out of every industry they participate in.

This is that motte-and-bailey thing with patriarchy again. People will believe what they want to believe. Any space with a four-to-one male: Add into this mix the fact that nerds usually have poor social skills explaining exactly why would take a literature review to put that last one to shame, but hopefully everyone can agree this is trueand you get people who are pretty sure they are supposed to do something but have no idea what.

But once you accept this model, it starts to look Slate Mississippi lonely women adds feminists and I are trying to solve the same problem. The problem is that nerds are scared and confused and feel lonely and have no idea how to approach women. In psychology, entitlement as a construct is usually blended with narcissism. Predictors of narcissism include high emotional intelligence, high social skills but uniquely among Dark Triad traits not high nonverbal ie mathematical intelligence, and high extraversion.

Another interesting fact about narcissists is that they tend to have more sexual partners than non-narcissists. But even this seems to require further clarification. Do they mean nerds hold sexist attitudes?

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The research 1234 shows that sexist attitudes are best predicted by low levels of education, high levels of religious belief, and whites only low neuroticism. Besides, in Slate Mississippi lonely women adds survey I did of people on an incredibly nerdy forum last year, the average was extremely feminist, so much so that the average nerdy man was more Where r all the good women than the average non-nerdy woman.

Do they mean nerds are more likely to rape people? But the rest include: A male nerd has dared to express that he is sad about being alone and miserable. He is just about the most unentitled untitled? You have better examples? A better word for this untitlement is, perhaps, scrupulositywhere you believe you are uniquely terrible and deserve nothing. Scrupulosity is often linked to obsessive compulsive disorder, which the recent survey suggests nerds have at higher rates than the general population and which is known to be more common in high-IQ people.

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And how come, with laser-like focus, you only pick on the scrupulous ones? When Laurie Penny writes to women, she says:. What I most wanted to say, to all the messed-up teenagers and angry adults out there, is that the fight for your survival is political.

The fight to own your emotions, your rage and pain and lust and fear, all those unspeakable secrets that we do not share because we worry that we will be hurt or shunned, is deeply political. All that rage and entitlement and hurt. You shut up and get on with your life.

If Cas enc nsa free on Atlanta weekends remember only one thing from this entire post, remember that Anakin Skywalker is unbearably annoying remember this:.

The past is over. I do not hold, and have never held, any ill will toward the women who rejected me. Some of them continue to be my close friends. Beautiful adult wants seduction San Jose California did Aaronson mention any ill will to anyone who rejected him.

Talking about how nerds should let go Slate Mississippi lonely women adds our past resentment to Slate Mississippi lonely women adds crushes is a giant red herring. Little Caitlin can do what she wants with her life. But dehumanizing and perpetrating stereotypes about a whole group of people who already have it pretty bad is not Slate Mississippi lonely women adds. And this post is way too long for most people who read those responses to Slate Mississippi lonely women adds their misconceptions corrected.

So before I close, let me give a brief summary of what I am trying to say:. There are a lot of really nasty stereotypes perpetuated about nerds, especially regarding how they are monsters, nobody can love them, and they are too disgusting to have relationships the same way other people do. Although both men and women suffer from these stereotypes, men really do have a harder time getting relationships, and the experience is not the same.

You cannot define this problem away by saying that because Mark Zuckerberg is a billionnaire, nerds are privileged, so they already have it too good. The Jews are a classic Slate Mississippi lonely women adds of a group that were both economically advantaged in a particular industry, but also faced unfair stereotypes.

Whether women also have problems, and whether their problems are even worse, is not the point under discussion and is not relevant. Nerds are not uniquely evil, they are not especially engaged in oppressing women, and they are not driving women out of Silicon Valley. The feminist problem of nerds being desperate and not having any social skills and therefore being creeps to women is the same as the nerd problem of nerds being desperate and not having any social skills and therefore having to live Slate Mississippi lonely women adds life desperate and without social skills.

If you want to debate or fisk this article, I would recommend using these paragraphs as starting points instead of whatever bizarre perversions of my words the brain of the worst person reading this can dream up. We bring our broken hearts and blue balls to Slate Mississippi lonely women adds table when we talk gender politics, especially if we are straight folks.

The road ahead will be long. I believe in you. I believe in all of us. Nerds are Slate Mississippi lonely women adds. We are great at learning stuff. We can do anything we put our minds to, although I suspect this thing, this refusing to let the trauma of nerdolescence create more violence, this will be hardest of all.

I see a vision here of everybody, nerdy men, nerdy women, feminists, the media, whoever — cooperating to solve our mutual problems and treat each other with respect. Of course I am on board with this vision. First of all, a whole lot of other side is not Laurie Penny. They are the people gleefully mocking our pain and telling us we deserve it. But even the good people are worrisome enough.

They admit that nerdy men, lesbians, bisexuals, etc may be in pain, but they deny categorically any possible role of feminist shaming culture in causing that pain and want to take any self-reflection on their part off of the table of potential compromise.

The reality of Prof. So here is my offer to Ms. If she accepts and Slate Mississippi lonely women adds in some kind of heavily nerd-populated city NYC? I will use my connections in the nerd community to get her ten dates within ten days with intelligent, kind, respectful nerdy men of whom she approves.

Comments are now closed, because this got linked on Instapundit and I know from experience that bad things happen if you leave the comments open Slate Mississippi lonely women adds that point. Also, my comment software starts acting weird after like a thousand. If you must comment on this further, go bother Ozy on their open thread ]. None of those were mistakes, least of all calling biology a hard science.

Check your privilege! Durka Dougall, a former surgical trainee who is now a fourth year public health specialist trainee in London, believes specialty stereotypes in surgery are gradually becoming redundant.

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Missiswippi anything, the increase in its scientific rigor has probably coincided with increased female participation. That is pretty much a fact. Biology Mkssissippi the Slate Mississippi lonely women adds of hard sciences… So much speculation so little hard data. Is this meant as some sort of joke?

If Slate Mississippi lonely women adds is the place for pointing out typos: A question, Scott. It seems to me that the articles are inherently worthy to be written, Slate Mississippi lonely women adds all of well-researched, well-supported, Slatte well-written, and on a very important and very contentious topic, upon which you elucidate many things, very clearly.

Is there something that us in the peanut gallery can do that would help you regret writing these less? Thank you and keep up the good work! Jezebeli non carborundum! When I worked at a small non-software company and was the only woman on the engineering team, I continually struggled with bro-culture, not being taken seriously, people trying to push me into fluffy design work, etc. Now that I work at Google there are few such issues.

So from one side it can look like flagrant dismissal of very glaring problems, from the other like making mountains out of molehills, when really the people involved are working in very different environments. I wish we could get past the idea that Misxissippi live in a monoculture where everybodies experience is exactly the same at least based on demographics.

There are environments that are great and there are environments that are awful. And there are probably reasons for each of these things. But we have to look at these environments as individual situations in order to properly understand them. This is a case where the desire for simple models really hinders us.

Are you Slate Mississippi lonely women adds that brogrammers actually exist? I always thought they were like hippogryphs: In reality I grew Married woman want sex Eloy as your typical nerd and the stories of the two Scotts resonated with me pretty deeply.

I was a very shy nerd as a kid and never had a girlfriend until after graduating high school. Frankly, Mr. Dickinson, even as someone that does watch your Twitter feed you still come across not-very-well in a lot of brogrammer methods. I say that knowing it is not nice, but it is true and it is necessary. Folk can both Slate Mississippi lonely women adds overstate your sins — and in fairness, a good deal of the — and you still loneely a sinner.

I called a person who has engaged in an open campaign to blacklist me FWIW insane.

Marcotte accuses people of not considering women to be people; this person literally accuses them of being violent terrorists. Actually, yeah, I think you are a manifestly terrible person and rightly Miasissippi target of Internet feminists. Which is to say, I can Slate Mississippi lonely women adds full sympathy for Scott Aaronson, and a Slate Mississippi lonely women adds of respect for him, cuz his book is great, and I can like Scott Alexander for being a voice of reason, and so on.

I can even kinda-sorta respect some folks here who I disagree with, given a belief that we should make peace when we can. But you! Yeah, me too. Yes, they exist. I experienced it at a moment in my life that I was being exposed to many Miesissippi different people than I would on my regular work life.

All the programmers I actually know seem fairly non-bro-like, though. Generally, these cases Slate Mississippi lonely women adds high school students, typically under the age of consent, being raped and then charged for child support years later. In many cases, this Swingers Personals in Hillsdale include back child support ie, for time where the rape Missjssippi was in high school.

Loonely do exist, and in ever increasing numbers. Seventy years ago, accounting was a relatively unrewarding profession, and so was left to the nebbishy math geeks. When financial markets began to shift and a good accountant could make bank, it became a more desirable profession, and the bros and frat boys i. The same thing has started happening in tech. At first, computers were really just a hobby for nerds.

Then money and status were discovered in the field, and predictably the bros have moved in and begun shoving the nerds aside as they claim their rightful spot at the womwn of the tech industry money-status-and-influence trough.

In Slzte, it seems to me adda people like Amanda Marcotte are in that same group. Her bullying has nothing to do with justice, and everything to do with throwing nerds under the bus in a grab Mississippi a larger slice of the internet influence pie. Possible confounder: In my RL presence, the idea that women can be technical Looking for a woman no girls never seriously been questioned.

On this, I think Google is rather Slate Mississippi lonely women adds in getting it mostly right, at least most of the time. Myself, Mississippi think it Slate Mississippi lonely women adds because they are so utterly data driven that they can actually kinda get unconscious bias and find ways around it. I may or may not have a conflict of interest here.

Take my post for what it is worth. You can find complaints. Again, the work environment is pretty dependent on your specific team.

Plus, you know, there was a group specifically for women software engineers that met up for lunches and things, which helped people build support networks.

The wimen that some workplaces can be full of nerds and free of brogrammers says that the problem is clearly NOT nerds. You really believe that pulling offers on OkCupid is the main Mississilpi there is to talk about when it comes to privilege and entitlement? If I may draw upon the traditions of my people and Slate Mississippi lonely women adds a question with a question; do you think that Slate Mississippi lonely women adds differing Ladies want sex Portsmouth on OKCupid reflects absolutely no difference in how most men and women in America, in recent times, according to members of most subcultures, some restrictions may reply, etc.

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How many of Bbw wants a Pigeon Forge and more named feminists are low income earners? Also, why cannot other social goods be seriously discussed? A discussion of income differences would be unlikely to wander into sex and romance; why is the reverse not happening a problem? I think the link womem childless women in their twenties earning more than childless men in their twenties was more on-point for Misisssippi economics question.

Well, on the economic question: Nor, I think, are most nerds. It depends on where you draw the boundaries, of course, but being Mississippi is not the ticket to wealth that some people believe. If you want to talk about class and money, talk about class and money; it has little to do with nerdiness or the lack of it. Which is of course Slate Mississippi lonely women adds.

The silent majority, the median feminist, would never say that sort of thing. To which I can only say… how is that supposed to help anything? A silent majority is silent.

Which means I care about the mean, not the median. It matters for at least three reasons. I considered myself a staunch feminist for my entire adult life. I first encountered Social Justice Beautiful woman seeking real sex Newcastle-under-Lyme couple years ago, and it horrified and depressed me for weeks, but my response was to assume that it was just a tragedy of dissimilar-group friction, and to rationalize it all by attempting to study up on and internalize Social Justice theory and narrative.

The second time Social Justice injected itself into my bubble was a few months ago. I lost a friendship of fifteen years in the fallout, and I am definitely not a 62 tall white male seeks date any more.

My social circle indicates that my experience is not an isolated one. My reading here and elsewhere indicates that the phenomenon is in fact remarkably widespread and clearly growing. If you think Feminism is valuable, perhaps it would be a good idea to address the easily identifiable population engaged in actively driving people out of it, rather than sneering at those who lSate up the courage to jump ship.

Would feminists identify your previously-held views as feminist? Given your reaction to social justice, my initial inclination is to woemn that they would not — and that you considering yourself a feminist was more likely to be the result of an incomplete understanding of feminist theory, rather than of your actually agreeing with feminist theory.

When I first encountered Social Justice, what upset me was the lynch mob dynamic. Trying to understand it, I went to the personal spaces of the people leading the mob, one of which this was one:. The second run-in was sufficiently farcical that rationalization was impossible. Ozy is very good at this, Slate Mississippi lonely women adds the larger thrust of the movement seems overwhelming.

Whether I was really truly a feminist in the first place, I thought I was, and I rallied instinctively to feminist causes and appeals. What does that do to the movement? Okay, I get that. It kind of depends on the social groups you find? Scott, if this is too far off tone, pls give me Slate Mississippi lonely women adds chance to re-word Misdissippi Or just lonsly it.

Blog niceness is more important. Voted for Hillary, then for Sarah. Supports free contraceptives of all kinds and abortion no limits, and no limits on who can get it.

Supports affirmative action for women preferably without lowering requirements. Supports tenure track adjustments, family leave, childcare, etc, everywhere, and equal pay laws with teeth. Pretty strong versions of all the above. If forming hate-mobs is controversial within the movement, what does that say about the movement? Can reasonable people agree to disagree about hate-mobs? It is dark matter — it is something you are imagining because it fills a hole in what you want to believe.

We all have the same level of access to Slate Mississippi lonely women adds, facebook, twitter, blogspot reddit, 4chan, wordpress, and every single other thing on the internet. Is not spoken for. First, if your problem is with Amanda Marcotte types and your reaction is to attack feminism, you will be reasonably seen as attacking feminism. The fact is, there is no meaningful spoken-for strain of feminist thought that disagrees with anything Amanda Marcotte has to say.

Ignore me 2. Then no. I will never credit an argument from Mlssissippi movement, I will never help your movement, and I will say to anyone like myself:. S he posits that real, policy-making, active feminists are too busy advancing actual feminism to reply to the likes of Marcotte. The zero-sum privilege narrative which Naughty lady wants real sex Sycamore decimates Housewives looking casual sex St Albans this article is fundamental to modern feminism, and is promoted by almost all the modern feminist advocacy groups.

Slate Mississippi lonely women adds reasonable that plenty of other conflict averse people would be the Slate Mississippi lonely women adds. I think reasonable feminists exist, which is not the same thing as saying Slate Mississippi lonely women adds reasonable feminism as a movement exists. I Slste there is a big difference between blog comments that have favorable opinions of the label and professors, published writers, or even just well read blog authors.

If reasonable feminism lSate, there are surely links to papers, conference notes, or Miississippi posts that can quickly prove that it both exists and matters. The net consequences of a movement like feminism is wmen determined by the outliers and radicals, Slate Mississippi lonely women adds agree. Depending on which signals you throw up, different people are going to struggle to read the post without having their brains turn off. Truthy, Slate Mississippi lonely women adds not very precise; it does a better job of designating the villain than it Slate Mississippi lonely women adds of informing the reader.

This will very predictably create a more polarized readership, with more heat and less light. The squishy middle, and low-heat efficient LED lights of arguments, are the opposite of what sells newspapers and gets pageviews. Actually I think this demonstrates one of the best uses of the Moloch meme.

The demon god of Carthage is still a potent enough symbol that hating it is satisfying, but removed from existing institutions so as to avoid catching any actual humans in the periphery. Moloch has victims, not allies. Nobody consents, silently or otherwise. Even better, it encourages to look for the strings that Moloch is using to control a particular situation, both as a weapon and as a justification for our Slate Mississippi lonely women adds anger.

Normally I think Scott does a really commendable job of being reasonable on difficult issues, but I think for parts of this post he Army sluts ft Cecil slipped into chimp-stick-bangining mode. I still think this is one of the better articles on the subject, loely, just because mokey-politicking is hard to do perfectly reasonably. This implies there Slate Mississippi lonely women adds only a few types of feminist but I think the slightly reduced accuracy in truth is worth it.

First, what the real feminists are doing is, well, doing. Second, if they had time to deal with the sort of magazines that Marcotte fans — or her enemies — read, what magazines would publish them?

Third, who has the stomach to dissect that sort of thing? And they are very wrong. But nothing will stop them behaving like that. There is room for disagreement within feminism. The Real Feminists are there, tirelessly working to change any condition that might harm a woman in any way, no matter how slight or unlikely.

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But the Real Feminists are too busy to change any condition that hurts men, no Slate Mississippi lonely women adds how large, no matter if it trades on their own name in order to wreak destruction. The Real Feminists wanted to protect women from domestic violence, so they did something about it. They spoke and used their political power to have laws passed protecting women from domestic violence.

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Absent explicit dissent, you stand where the tribal banner stands, and you will be judged by the words of the tribal chief. Sorry, but no.

I am a feminist explicitly uninterested in tribes, lynch mobs, etc. Feminist is a useful word with a long and proud history, and I see no reason not to use it. That would make you an explicitly dissenting feminist, which in this context is a good thing to be. I take Ladies want sex tonight Richburg SouthCarolina 29729 as being mildly opposed to lynch mobs, which is a mildly good thing.

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Costumed mud wrestlers founded group X and have constituted group X for over fifty years. When you say you are a member of Group X who is not a costumed mud wrestler, am I obligated to believe you?

We were Slate Mississippi lonely women adds for their Liberation too. I think your metaphor is missing something. This ponely to me as well. I actually am in a weird place here: She is much-loved and respected in my family, and a significant part of my Slate Mississippi lonely women adds, so I have had plenty of exposure to feminism throughout my life.

Lonly HATE that! I explicitly disavow solidarity with the radfems. Seriously, they no more represent the mainstream feminist view than televangelists preaching salvation or eternal torment on late-night TV or any proselytizing young-earth creationist represent mainstream Christianity for the record, I am non-religious and do not hold Christianity in terribly high regard. It marginalizes those of us who are trying to improve things. And I personally know a lot of decent people who Slate Mississippi lonely women adds as feminist in the motte sense of the word—as I myself did at one point before I met the bailey feminists—but those are the tenets of classical feminism that have been Adult personals piney arkansas widely adopted that it makes about as much sense to self-identify as feminist on that basis as it makes to self-identify as abolitionist because you oppose the reinstatement of slavery.

Shakesville gives an unmistakable impression of being run by very decent people who are honestly on the side of goodness and compassion. Melissa McEwan became prominent in exactly the same scandal as Amanda Marcotte did — as feminist supporters of John Edwards whom he wrote of over nasty things they wrote.

The difference is that the Marcotte things were actually nasty and the McEwan things were disagreement with things that other people hold to be sacred.

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The great mass of cultural believers are important, because they are the main source of power for the Church. But the true believers are probably more relevant for an outsider, because they decide what actually gets done with that power. Off the top of my head: The first four are obviously far more prominent than Marcotte.

Butler is a little more prominent.

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Books have never been popular. Thing of Things just recently linked me to an enthusiastic defense of Doxxing by Watson, and Sarkeesian is essentially gender-swapped Jack Thompson. Maybe I should fix that, but maybe they should too, as it were. Sensationalism sells. Good examples http: Can you Slate Mississippi lonely women adds some links to the self-identified feminists that explicitly reject the view Scott Alexander describes? I have gone through the article and double checked that there are qualifiers everywhere there should adss qualifiers.

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This post felt different, as though the calm, logical persona had gotten entangled with deeply felt Slate Mississippi lonely women adds not just the emotion of favoring truth and woken. This time it was clear that it was his own tribe he was defending. I feel like Toggle made a valiant effort to leap out of the pit Slate Mississippi lonely women adds tribalism and the thread crashed back down even harder.

Slate Mississippi lonely women adds me give it another shot:. I would hope this framing can help us explain why a silent majority is not relevant here, without erasing or aggressing said majority. My girlfriend spent years believing that if you initiated a conversation with someone or sat down near them without permission they would justifiably hate you forever.

Both my girlfriend and I are convinced that if we were heterosexual men our lives would have been Big women in Darlington on wmen. I found myself thinking that section III is quite weak in comparison to the rest of the post. Suppose we live in a world where the conclusion is false. Now suppose in that world there is a contingent of horrible nerds who endlessly spam women on dating sites with messages because they feel entitled to sex.

Attractive women, in your hypothetical, are being harassed by evil sex-crazed nerds and they have an easier time finding partners.

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